Professor Emer Ring is Dean of Education at Mary Immaculate College (MIC). Emer worked as principal investigator with the University College Cork (UCC) and MIC research teams to evaluate the in-school therapy demonstration project commissioned by the NCSE. In conversation with Anna Mai Rooney from CSL, Emer explains the positive outcomes from this project and how the success of the demonstration was scaffolded by effective school leadership in the schools that were lucky enough to be involved.